News Brazil high court rules that homophobia is now punishable by prison. (1 Viewer)

[Shou]

American here, can we cop this?
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[StirFriedPanda]

Here's the problem with this. What swings one way, can invariably swing the other to the same or greater extreme. Not to mention how do you legally define homophobia? Speech in all it's forms must remain free. Even when it hurts.

 

[Shou]

Here's the problem with this. What swings one way, can invariably swing the other to the same or greater extreme. Not to mention how do you legally define homophobia? Speech in all it's forms must remain free.

It's defined as hate speech... why is that controversial?

 

[StirFriedPanda]

It's defined as hate speech... why is that controversial?

It all depends on how "hate speech" is defined. If it's encouraging violent actions yes then its "hate speech" but it's a slippery slope that goes both directions.

 

[Shou]

It all depends on how "hate speech" is defined. If it's encouraging violent actions yes then its "hate speech" but it's a slippery slope that goes both directions.

You can read the article if you want https://amp.rfi.fr/en/health-and-li...h-court-rules-homophobia-punishable-by-prison

 

[StirFriedPanda]

You can read the article if you want https://amp.rfi.fr/en/health-and-li...h-court-rules-homophobia-punishable-by-prison

It's still really vague and doesn't explain what hate speech is. I believe the term in the US is "actionable hate speech". This is where hate speech becomes illegal. It's a good distinction because it draws a definable line. Actionable hate speech means hate speech that engenders or encourages crimes (not just violence) against someone based on race, gender, sex, etc.. If you leave it as just hate speech it's to vague and anyone can be caught up. Simply being emotional and saying "I hate you to someone" could get you sent to prison. Is that right, or fair? People can only truly hurt you if you give them permission. Listen to those who love you and not to those who don't.

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Ha, I'm sorry I can't help but pick these things apart and see the ramifications. I see how quickly free speech is erased, starting in ways "that can't possibly be bad but in the end that's the very way government's, dictators, and degenerates take away your rights. Like the lobster in a cook pot you don't know it's happening until you have no freedoms left. It sucks when people express their hatred to you but it gives you the chance to be a better person by not hating them back.

 

[Selfmate]

What swings one way, can invariably swing the other to the same or greater extreme.

so you're a swinger?

 

[StirFriedPanda]

so you're a swinger?

Nah, not that well endowed. More like a dangler.

 

[Selfmate]

Nah, not that well endowed. More like a dangler.

swinger/dangler vs shower/grower...hmmm

 

[Shou]

Ha, I'm sorry I can't help but pick these things apart and see the ramifications. I see how quickly free speech is erased, starting in ways "that can't possibly be bad but in the end that's the very way government's, dictators, and degenerates take away your rights. Like the lobster in a cook pot you don't know it's happening until you have no freedoms left. It sucks when people express their hatred to you but it gives you the chance to be a better person by not hating them back.

Why be the better person when you can go lower LMAO

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Why be the better person when you can go lower LMAO

LOL, STOP THAT. DOn't be like me!!!!!!!!! Let @YouChan be your example!

 

[YouChan]

I really hope it works out, but also sometimes share the same concerns as @DarthBlindMole and @Selfmate when I hear about these laws. As long as it goes well and is fair to everyone, I’m happy with the law.

 

[Pirioca]

So the Brazilian Catholic church is imprisoned now?

 

[Sooyaabean]

so you're a swinger?

I was in study hall when I saw this and disrupted the class by laughing so hard

Are you proud of yourself?

 

[Selfmate]

I was in study hall when I saw this and disrupted the class by laughing so hard

Are you proud of yourself?

of course I am - I'm very proud of my self and my mate darthblindmole
you shouldn't be KPSing and studying!!!

 

[Sooyaabean]

No but I agree with @Selfmate and @DarthBlindMole and @YouChan

Orwell said in 1984 'freedom is to say 2+2 makes 4 all else will follow' If you start saying you can't SAY something you are working towards an totalitarian society

Let's see how long this victory stays sweet

 

[Sooyaabean]

of course I am - I'm very proud of my self and my mate darthblindmole
you shouldn't be KPSing and studying!!!

I was studying but I was having lunch so I wanted to do a little kps

 

[Selfmate]

I was studying but I was having lunch so I wanted to do a little kps

then how could have you disrupted your class if you were at lunch
sounds fishy to me!!!

 

[Sooyaabean]

then how could have you disrupted your class if you were at lunch
sounds fishy to me!!!

No no no, I finished eating my lunch in study hall.