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Question to everyone:

Your out drinking with 2 of your best buddies and a lot of other people. You know that they are either shoving drugs and/or alcohol into womans systems. The ones that are beginning to loose control your best buddies are trying to get back to their room. You now have a moral delema.

A.As a good person would you stop your buddies from taking woman back to their room? Prevent assult from these woman from ever happening.

B. Or as a good person would you let your firends do their thing. After all fuck it it was the womans fault for not being careful. If he physically doesn't do anything with the woman it's not your issue.

or

C. You know what your firends are about to do to night so you ghost them to pretend you don't know.
 

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Question to everyone:

Your out drinking with 2 of your best buddies and a lot of other people. You know that they are either shoving drugs and/or alcohol into womans systems. The ones that are beginning to loose control your best buddies are trying to get back to their room. You now have a moral delema.

A.As a good person would you stop your buddies from taking woman back to their room? Prevent assult from these woman from ever happening.

B. Or as a good person would you let your firends do their thing. After all fuck it it was the womans fault for not being careful. If he physically doesn't do anything with the woman it's not your issue.

or

C. You know what your firends are about to do to night so you ghost them to pretend you don't know.
A

I'll stand around and watch if friends decide to ruin their own lives but if they're trying to drug and assault others then they're not my friend anymore.
 
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I didn't turn against seungei until the police got involved and I won't change my mind until the police redact evidence on the bases of falaety


Both fans and antis need to be much more patient. of course the media releases unreliable reports. Had they been believing everything that was said?

if they were supporting seungei after acknowledging the? media as having validity then I'm really appalled (and even if the police some how redacted all claims and said he was completely?innocent...you could not pay me a million dollars to join a fandom that disgusting again)

I don't support seungei but it's also not clear yet who exactly has done what so my final verdict is still reserved, as should all of ours be... though I don't think we'll ever get proper resolution, the X1 case is going through faster...and again the? Korean govt does have investments..

instead of entangeling my self in something to vague to have a proper answer I'm just going to let Korean law handle it
 
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i understood it as them saying that the chat he was part of was a molka chat and not just a business chat... oops.


The prostitution side of this scandal hasn't really been touched on unfortunately. Do you know where you found the source that said that Yuri's Holdings CEO's confession was proved false? I wonder why that hasn't been talked about much unless the police are trying to cover things up...
I think the source that it was false was from users comments on article or something like that, so definitely not legit source if can't be backed up. :nekosweat: That's why i have been trying to find where that info comes from, is there actually police report or news source behind it. I guess i could go ask some plp who follow this more and believe in his innocence if they know about the report being claimed as false and where that info comes from. What confuses me most is that police hasn't been treating the confessions as clear evidence (corruption?) and in other hand why isn't Channel A sued if they make outrageous claims like that I don't think u can say someone confessed crime if they didn't.

The prostitution stuff is definitely not touched enough by the police. It was the biggest claim against Seungri since the beginning (along with drug use/selling). There needs to be legit info what happened to those accusations and what happened to all the evidence they were supposed to have.
 
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Him and jjy were close friends, when he sent that video Seungri did condemn him but he never did anything about it. And his stans are saying “well it was a 15 second video how was he supposed to know it was rape!!” Well, considering that Seungri and jjy were close,, tbh I think that Seungri did know. He was sent a video regardless, I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone would act as if nothing happened if their close friend sent them a video of them having sex with someone, I mean the next time I saw them I’d question the shit out of them. All of his stans are delusional, he knew about the videos and did nothing. Point blank period.
I'm not sure if the vid in question was about rape or not (in my knowledge JJY didn't rape all the women, but filmed the sexual acts without them knowing aka molkas). He did know the at least some videos were being taken and shared and that it was wrong and illegal. But I'm not convinced that Seungri didn't know anything about the rapes. I think one of them happened in party he arranged (this one was by BS employee i think) and i think he was also drinking with the guys and left before the another happened. It is quite icky.
 

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I'm not sure if the vid in question was about rape or not (in my knowledge JJY didn't rape all the women, but filmed the sexual acts without them knowing aka molkas). He did know the at least some videos were being taken and shared and that it was wrong and illegal. But I'm not convinced that Seungri didn't know anything about the rapes. I think one of them happened in party he arranged (this one was by BS employee i think) and i think he was also drinking with the guys and left before the another happened. It is quite icky.
The video that he was sent wasn’t consensual. Seungri definitely knew about eh videos, he never filmed or sent videos himself but I’m not convinced that he knew nothing about Them. I mean he was literally sent one, and like I said, nobody would just go on with their day after their close friend sends them a video of them having sex with someone else. Even if it is consensual.
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@potato : this "article", it's posted by user, but sources korean newssites talks about the Channel A's report about them confessing being fake: 10 huge misconceptions about Seungri's case . Though it only mentions how it was fake that Seungri confessed. So if Yoo Inseok confessed that they both tested these prostitutes then it's still evidence against Seungri.
 

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In the beginning, there were a lot of allegations of higher ups and government officials being linked to this as well as a string of actress suicides (Jang Ja Yeon being the biggest)

Whatever happened with that
 

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Well since we're talking about the case then the biggest problem I find with it is that no matter what version of events you are going by you are relying on someones word who is not reliable.

Whether you are going by Seungris word, the police or the media, everyone in this case has reason to try and look themselves the best possible.

Seungri for obvious damage control, the police since they got brought into it with Jonghoon and the media to stop this getting to the real people at the top of the food chain by focusing on Seungri.

Maybe it'll become clearer later on but right now the case is just a mess and only a few things have a way to prove them by things lining up with more than one of the people involved but for the most part it's pretty foggy and leaves a lot up to your own take.
 
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Seungri is still canceled to me.
1) If you know about videos of young women being filmed in sexual acts but didn't report it, that to me is wrong. How do you know it was filmed with their consent? How do you know they were not being rapped? Either way why would you be friends with such perverted people?

2) Burning Sun/Prostitution. There were so much going on in Burning Sun and Seungri really didn't know?! Yeah right. Idk about anyone else but to me prostitution is a form of systematic rape that is inherently misogynistic. And no you can't "consent" to your own abuse, which is what prostitution is, a form of institutionalizied sexual abuse. Why is his name so attached to that? Why is he even near that?

3) Seungri has been attached to too many forms of criminal activity and moral failings. Corruption, bribery, pimping, illegal drugs, rape, hell the Triads.

Not to mention his attitude towards women and his ego was always not the best. It's too much.
If he comes back to BigBang or they support him I'm done with the group. Period.
 
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I think there's a valid reason this time. Apparently, the journalist was lying about Seungri's involvement with the case and he was actually against the videos being shared on the chat.

He's still guilty but apparently less guilty than the media portrayed him to be.
This is the right answer. There was a lot of media manipulation and exaggeration of his involvement in the case but he's not a victim or whatsoever. Seungri is an accomplice by omition, he knew what they were up to and participated in YHS's schemes. If those are rather more shady/ immoral than actually criminal that's other thing but doesn't make Seungri's actions less reprehensible.
 

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Seungri Stans need to just stop.

He did wrong. He gets the punishment. End of story.
See? Easy.

I'm a pretty big VIP but I know he did wrong and needs to accept punishment.
 

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@potato : this "article", it's posted by user, but sources korean newssites talks about the Channel A's report about them confessing being fake: 10 huge misconceptions about Seungri's case . Though it only mentions how it was fake that Seungri confessed. So if Yoo Inseok confessed that they both tested these prostitutes then it's still evidence against Seungri.
Thank you, I remember seeing this article now. I think Yoo Inseok only confessed for himself and not Seungri so nothing has been proved regarding Seungri yet. The gambling issue has yet to be looked at as well. We've heard nothing at all about YG ever since we received news that he was resigning from YGE or much to do with the gambling scandal at all which seems pretty suspicious.
 

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From a legal standpoint, Seungri did nothing wrong in the molka case afaik. The prostitution/gambling/tax evasion scandal, he probably is guilty in atleast one of these.
Regardless, from a moral standpoint, I can't support Seungri any longer and some VIPs making him out to be this innocent angel who only got dragged because of bad company makes me sick. Whether he gets convicted or not, his career is done as it should be.
 
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Well since we're talking about the case then the biggest problem I find with it is that no matter what version of events you are going by you are relying on someones word who is not reliable.

Whether you are going by Seungris word, the police or the media, everyone in this case has reason to try and look themselves the best possible.

Seungri for obvious damage control, the police since they got brought into it with Jonghoon and the media to stop this getting to the real people at the top of the food chain by focusing on Seungri.

Maybe it'll become clearer later on but right now the case is just a mess and only a few things have a way to prove them by things lining up with more than one of the people involved but for the most part it's pretty foggy and leaves a lot up to your own take.
I mean everyone when involved has reason to look themselves in the best light... it's an unescapable human flaw... but out of the three it's best to trust the police... there's no fourth party... just these three and media and the accused are definitely going to be deceptive or having a different motive... you have to rely on the police
 
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Seungri Stans need to just stop.

He did wrong. He gets the punishment. End of story.
See? Easy.

I'm a pretty big VIP but I know he did wrong and needs to accept punishment.
your right , it should be easy
it'd be easy if the case was moving along... his career ending isn't a legal punishment for breaking the law though... that's why everything keeps on growing increasingly ridiculous. without a real conclusion people are desperate to find there own
 

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this is just so messy. I really don‘t understand those that think he is completely innocent
 
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What rubbish, obviously no one but him knows how much of it he got involved in, but one thing's for sure. He's not innocent at all, and it's actually even worse if he never got directly involved, but still knew about it. He stood by all that trash, such wrong and disgusting acts. He's not a good or at least thoughtful person, and he was friends with people who weren't either. There's a reason why the saying "birds of a feather" has truth in it.
 
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